, now we've lost a sense of this, but in north america, especially in the lower 48, in the 19th century, german thought was profoundly influential, much more so than french thought or english thought to the extent there was english thought. emmerson and his circle, the trance dentallist relied on german thought and you'd get to the turn of the century and the flowering, the turn of the century into the 1920's, into the early 1930's, in vienna and elsewhere, and if you look at the genius of it, it is by and large jewish culture. and the german-speaking lands turned, whether from jealousy, whatever, complex series of causes, they turn on it, and they butcher their own culture and since 1945, germany, the german-speaking lands, someone's the fountain of the greatest intellectual sophistication and development and outpouring in modern history, what have they produced since 1945? automobiles and gummy bears. it was amazing to me how this could happen and i know we riddle about it all the time, so i think with the european criticism, i do see it largely as the need to cancel their own guilt.